'Rs 2.6cr for lunch is my guru dakshina'
WASHINGTON: New York City's storied Smith&Wollensky restaurant, described as the steakhouse to end all arguments, does not allow seating on the floor. If it did, Mohnish Pabrai would be only too happy to sit at the feet of investment guru Warren Buffett and soak up some more financial gyaan. The Mumbai-born fund manager and a partner paid the equivalent of Rs 2.6 crore ($650,100) last week for the pleasure of having a charity lunch with the Oracle of Omaha. "It was a bargain basement price for the honour," Pabrai told TOI, disclosing that he had been ready shell out a million dollars in the eBay auction for the annual event. "I have gained so much from Mr Buffett that I consider this a small guru dakshina ," he added. Pabrai himself has done wonders for his investors. Appropriately enough for the grandson of the legendary magician Gogia Pasha, he has conjured up returns that have bettered the great guru's gains for Berkshire Hathaway shareholders. But his investing method, he insists, is more common sense than legerdemain. Excerpts: Q: I'm thinking you might have paid about $10,000 per minute for this lunch if it lasts an hour... A: The lunch typically lasts three hours. It is really a bargain basement price for the honour. I have gained so much from Mr Buffett that I consider this a small guru dakshina. I owe him a debt. I have learnt much from him, but I have never given back to him. Q: Have you ever met Mr Buffett before? You must have attended the annual Berkshire fete in Omaha? A: I think I've been there every year for the past ten years. I've met him briefly at investor meets, but I have never been introduced to him. Q: As a self-confessed Buffett buff, you have studied him so closely. What remains to be asked? A: Just to be with him, to talk about life, about his perspectives, should be good enough. I also want to learn from him about philanthropy and apply some of his principles to my own Dakshana Foundation. I consider this as the first grant my foundation is making (the Buffett lunch bid money goes to the Glide Foundation which helps the poor and homeless in San Francisco) Q: So when is this lunch going to happen? A: Well, I just wired the money today. The guy who won the 2006 auction had his lunch with Buffett only a couple of months ago, so I guess it will be some time before my turn. But I'm not complaining. It will give me more time to prepare. Q: I hope you enjoy steaks though... A: (laughs) Oh I eat steaks, but my wife Harina has concerns. But I told her Smith&Wollensky also has a large seafood menu. My daughters (Monsoon and Momachi) will also be with us and they are looking forward to this too. Q: You are no mean money manager yourself. Your latest book, The Dhando Investor, looks at principles of the Patel community. How did you zero in on Patels? A: Actually, my roommate in college (Pabrai studied undergrad at South Carolina's Clemson and an unfinished degree at Illinois Institute of Technology) pointed out the Patel phenomenon in the US to me. I've always been a student of entrepreneurship so I studied them. Patels are entrepreneurs on steroids, but they are very risk averse. They want all upside and no downside the same principle followed by the value investor. Q: You also talk about the Abhimanyu dilemma... A: Most investors focus a lot of what to buy, when to buy etc. They don't deal with selling. It's like Abhimanyu getting into the chakravyuha and not knowing how to get out or when to get out. This chapter deals with the exit strategy. Q: Do you also have finance in your DNA like the Patels? A: Pabrais are from the Punjab. My maternal grandfather was Gogia Pasha. My father's side was from Lahore and my father was a serial entrepreneur. He variously founded, sold, bankrupted may be 15 companies in Mumbai and Dubai. My brother and I were on his board of directors from may be when we were eleven. At 15, I was making sales calls. I can say I finished my MBA before finishing high school. So I guess in that sense I have been an entrepreneur for long.
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